State of AI with Nathan Benaich - Black Forest Labs FLUX 3_ from video_generation_to_robot_control
Summary
本期节目介绍了Black Forest Labs推出的多模态基础模型Flux 3,以及它在从视频生成到机器人控制上的应用。Flux 3在单一架构中联合学习图像、视频和音频,能够生成长达20秒带音频的视频,并在人类偏好测试中优于Runway、Grok等竞品。为了生成逼真的视频,模型必须在内部理解物体如何持续存在、材料如何形变以及物体接触后会发生什么,而这些内部表征恰好也能支持真实世界的机器人控制。苏黎世机器人公司Mimic基于Flux 3的视频骨干网络推出了Flux Mimic,通过在视频预测特征上加一个轻量动作解码器来控制机器人,推理时无需真正生成视频,因此速度极快。在软体套件任务中,Flux Mimic无需单任务微调即达到95%的成功率,远高于Pi0.5的55%和高度后训练策略的70%;当骨干网络被冻结时它仍具竞争力,说明操作相关的有用信息在预训练阶段就已存在。奥迪生产实验室已在真实产线上部署该系统,处理传统自动化无法应对的柔性材料如密封件和线缆。节目最后指出,机器智能的下一步进展可能来自能够构建世界、在其中行动并学习现实规律的系统,而开放权重的骨干网络将赋能整个机器人生态。
Highlights
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trained Flux 3 on tens of millions of hours of general video, including hundreds of thousands of hours focused on human and robot manipulation. Generation quality offers one view of what the model has learned. The robotics experiments test whether that knowledge is accessible eno ...
Flux 3在数千万小时的通用视频上训练,其中包括数十万小时专注于人类和机器人操作的视频。生成质量提供了观察模型学到了什么的一个视角,而机器人实验则检验这些知识是否足够可用以指导行动。
Reveals the massive scale of training data and the core research question -
Mimic benchmarked a preview version on a soft-body kidding task using a real robot. The company reports a 95% success rate without single task fine-tuning or post-training. Compared with 55% for an adapted Pi0.5 model trained on the same data mix and 70% for a flow matching polic ...
Mimic在真实机器人上对软体套件任务进行了预览版基准测试。公司报告在没有单任务微调或后训练的情况下达到了95%的成功率,相比之下改造后的Pi0.5模型为55%,在该任务上高度后训练的流匹配策略为70%。
Striking benchmark result achieved without any task-specific training -
With the flux backbone frozen, flux mimic remain competitive while the Pi0.5 action decoder recorded no successful task completions. The results suggest that useful information about manipulation was already present in the pre-trained video backbone.
在冻结Flux骨干网络的情况下,Flux Mimic仍保持竞争力,而Pi0.5的动作解码器则没有完成任何成功的任务。结果表明,关于操作的有用信息在预训练的视频骨干网络中就已经存在。
The frozen-backbone ablation is the key insight proving video pretraining encodes manipulation knowledge -
We have seen these robots solve complex soft-body manipulation work that would have been simply impossible with conventional robotics, said Kristof Schneider of Audi Production Lab.
奥迪生产实验室的Kristof Schneider表示:我们看到这些机器人解决了复杂的软体操作工作,而这些用传统机器人技术根本不可能实现。
Real-world validation from Audi that this handles previously impossible tasks -
Tele-operated demonstrations get collected, task by task. They are slow and expensive to produce, and they transfer poorly when the task changes. A backbone that already encodes how objects behave changes what a small team has to pay for. The world knowledge comes from video that ...
遥操作演示是逐个任务收集的,制作起来既慢又昂贵,而且在任务改变时迁移能力很差。一个已经编码了物体行为方式的骨干网络改变了小团队需要付出的成本——世界知识来自已经存在的视频,而演示预算则用于最后一公里。
Sharp economic argument for why a pretrained backbone reshapes robotics development
Full transcript
You're listening to Black Forest Labs, Flux 3, from video generation to robot control on Air Street Press. In Audi's production lab, a robot arm seats an electronic control unit into a tight-fitting fixture. When it misses a grasp, it corrects itself, grasps again, and completes the task. The arm and its control stack come from Mimic, a Zurich-based robotics company building video action models for industrial manipulation.
At the center of the system is the backbone of a video generator, Flux 3, the new multimodal foundation model from Black Forest Labs. Flux 3 was trained to predict how scenes evolve. Doing that well requires it to learn and represent how objects persist, how materials deform, and what follows when one object makes contact with another. Flux mimic tests, whether those internal representations can also support robot control in the real world.
Black Forest Labs and AirStreet Portfolio Company released Flux 3 last week. The model learns jointly from images, video, and audio within a single architecture. Each modality supplies information the others lack, images capture spatial structure, video ads, time, and motion, and audio helps locate events such as speech and impact. BFL is extending the same underlying model to action prediction offered through selected research and commercial partners.
Mimic released Flux Mimic alongside it. The system combines Flux 3's video backbone with Mimic's robot manipulation data, action decoder, hardware, and deployment stack. Flux 3 video is in early access now, while image generation and editing will follow soon, with action prediction available through selected partners and an open-weight multimodal backbone also planned. This model family will add more depth to BFL's open-weight track record of more than half a billion downloads to date.
One model for sight, sound, and action. New video models are commonly evaluated through pairwise human preference tests. Raiders watch two clips generated from the same prompt and choose the one they prefer. In BFL's preliminary evaluations of 10 seconds, 720p text-to-video clips with audio, Flux 3 was preferred over Runway Gen 4.5 in 77% of comparisons, and Grock imagined video in up to 69%.
with narrower margins against the strongest systems. 60% over Kling V3 Pro and 52% over Cdance, 2.0, and Gemini Omni Flash. The model can generate up to 20 seconds of video with audio in a single pass. It works from text, images, or video, carries characters and other visual references across multi-shot sequences, renders typography, and produces synchronized dialogue in several languages.
Producing a convincing video requires an internal account of the scene. Objects must persist when they leave the frame. Cables must bend where hands grip them. A part clicking into a housing should sound different from one dropped on the floor, and the sound must coincide with the visible impact. Joint training lets each modality constrain the others.
trained Flux 3 on tens of millions of hours of general video, including hundreds of thousands of hours focused on human and robot manipulation. Generation quality offers one view of what the model has learned. The robotics experiments test whether that knowledge is accessible enough to guide action. From prediction to action, Flux Mimic places a lightweight action decoder on intermediate features extracted from Flux 3's video prediction path.
The backbone forms an expectation of how the scene will evolve, while the decoder translates that representation into chunks of robot actions. It never generates video at inference time, so a chunk of actions costs a single forward pass through the backbone rather than a full video rollout. Mimic benchmarked a preview version on a soft-body kidding task using a real robot. The company reports a 95% success rate without single task fine-tuning or post-training. Compared with 55%, for an adapted Pi0.5 model trained on the same data mix and 70% for a flow matching policy heavily post-trained on that task. A separate ablation is more revealing about the representation itself. With the flux backbone frozen, flux mimic remain competitive while the Pi0.5 action decoder recorded no successful task completions. The results suggest that useful information about manipulation was already present in the pre-trained video backbone.
before it was adapted to the specific task. The system also has to respond quickly enough to control a physical machine. BFL says the flux mimic backbone can be optimized to run from input to internal representation in less than 80 milliseconds on a single NVIDIA RTX 5.090. Further optimization across the action decoder the inter-processed path between sensors, model and actuators, and real-time chunking that overlaps prediction with execution brings the full system's reaction time to 101 milliseconds. Audi Production Lab has been testing and deploying the system on real production use cases. These include kitting parts into structured trays, inserting electronic components into tight-fitting fixtures, assembling components, and manipulating flexible materials such as seals and cables.
which Mimic describes as material's conventional automation has never been able to handle. We have seen these robots solve complex soft-body manipulation work that would have been simply impossible with conventional robotics," said Kristof Schneider of Audi Production Lab. The Road to Physical Intelligence. Regular readers will recognize the thesis. When Odyssey raised its $310 million series B last month, we wrote that the next advance in machine intelligence may come from systems that build worlds, act inside them, and learn how reality behaves. Flux Mimic brings that argument onto a factory floor. A representation learned through video generation is being used to control a robot performing industrial manipulation. We see the other side of this via the flow of new investment opportunities at Airstreed. Of the two dozen robotics companies we have seen this year alone, half are building manipulation policies, and they have largely converged on the same VLA style, architectures.
but the differences come down to data. Tele-operated demonstrations get collected, task by task. They are slow and expensive to produce, and they transfer poorly when the task changes. A backbone that already encodes how objects behave changes what a small team has to pay for. The world knowledge comes from video that already exists, and the demonstration budget goes to the last mile.
That's where the frozen backbone result shines, and being open weights means that it can empower an entire ecosystem of robotics builders. At Flux 3, video is available in early access now. Image generation and editing will follow, alongside partner access for action prediction and an open-weight version of the multimodal backbone. Thanks for listening to Black Forest Labs Flux 3, from video generation to robot control on Air Street Press.